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September 11, 2003
Spoke Too Soon
Just as I feared he might, Joe Barton just went and blew away my short-lived renewal of goodwill. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas told NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe that he believed the shuttle was so unsafe that it should never again fly with people on board. "We are putting American men and women at great risk to their lives to fly an orbiter that is 30 years old and cannot be made safe," said Barton at a hearing of the House Science Committee. He pledged to "do everything I can" to prevent astronauts from going up in the shuttle, which he called "inherently unsafe." "We've lost 14 men and women and if we keep flying we'll lose 21 others in the next 10 to 15 years," he said. We know it's a risk to fly the Shuttles, but it's a known risk (at least when the right people pay attention to the risks and know how to analyze them). But let's take a look at the options:
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Yeah. I felt the same way when I read it. Do you think he really believes we should never put humans in the shuttle ever again, or does he have another motivation? Could he just be playing it heavy handedly to force NASA to prove the shuttle is safe before flying again? Or maybe he just wants to be the "I told you so" guy if we have another disaster. Posted by: Carl Carlsson at September 11, 2003 09:48 PM I don't know the guy's views other than by the few comments I've linked to here over the past several months, so I really couldn't guess. Generically, though, what would a Representative have to gain from such a demand, especially if the affected program has roots in or near his own district? Might he be angling for a whole-hog effort at Shuttle replacement, in order to bring jobs and pork back home? That would seem short-sighted, if it means all those people currently working Shuttle are put out of work in the meantime. However, note that his district is up around Ft. Worth, where Shuttle is a pork nonentity (though LM-Vought may be within the 6th District, and they produce the Shuttle tiles and RCC panels). He may not gain from OSP (unless LM wins it and it is run from Ft. Worth instead of Denver, which verges on the impossible), but neither does he have anything to lose from permanently grounding Shuttle. Hmm. But Grand Prairie is within his district too, and there are rocket test facilities there which are used by small/startup companies. Doesn't seem big enough, though, in terms of constituent jobs or economic impact, to motivate a Representative to get a huge program like Shuttle cancelled. Strange and improbable as it may sound, he may see himself in the representative role laid out by the Federalists, namely making decisions which seem to him to serve the best interests of the nation even when they may go against the momentary passions of the citizenry. Perhaps, in his view as a Representative rather than as a politician, killing Shuttle is the best thing for our national space efforts. Again, I have no idea what his views really are, I'm only speculating on the interests generic to any Congressional Representative. Posted by: T.L. James at September 11, 2003 11:14 PM There is one technical alternative to getting new modules to ISS without the Shuttle. Use an EELV to lift them to an ISS orbit, then use a remotely piloted tug to grab it, rendezvous with ISS, and dock. This is would provide an alternative to the manned Shuttle with RMS, or self assembling system used by Russia. How big would such a tug have to be? Say the tug used the same grappler as the RMS or SSRMS, but on a fixed mount (no arm). It would use manoeuvring thrusters (equivalent to RCS but smaller) and one larger main thruster (equivalent to OMS but smaller). It would also require video cameras and navigational radar, as well as communications with an operator either on ISS or at mission control. Could such a tug be kept down to 3 tonnes including propellant? The tug would have to be designed to be refuelled by a cargo spacecraft sent to ISS. This is an interesting technology I think we need to develop, but it isn't even a goal of the OSP program. Currently we have no way to complete ISS without Shuttle, so Shuttle will have to return to service. Posted by: Robert Dyck at September 12, 2003 04:35 PM Carl Carlsson, The Saturn V was much safer than the Shuttle! Reviving it may be too expensive, but NASA should mothball the Shuttles and go ahead with an all new HLLV that is safer the both the Shuttle and the Saturn V! If the Saturn V wasn't mothballed in the first place, the ISS would have been completed at least two years ago at a much reduced cost! Posted by: Dominic Pledger at September 12, 2003 04:46 PM Robert -- that is a good idea, and one which has been batted around on many occasions over the past twenty-plus years. Here, though, I find myself reverting by reflex to my cynicism about NASA's ability to carry out such a project -- sure, you and I know it could be put together inexpensively from existing NASA or Soyuz/Progress hardware, but would NASA actually be able to DO that, without turning what should be a utilitarian vehicle into a Big Project? Note that I am not being hypocritcal here, complaining about NASA's tendency to balloon programs while elsewhere asking for NASA to be tasked with manned Mars missions. The latter would have a goal against which to evaluate progress and choose from among alternatives. Posted by: T.L. James at September 12, 2003 08:10 PM Dominic -- ISS could have been pretty well complete in a single launch, had NASA chosen to build it from ET components (a la Skylab) and launch it on a modified Shuttle stack. One launch would have delivered to orbit a fully-assembled, integrated, and checked-out station with the equivalent useable volume of seventeen average-sized ISS modules, with a Shuttle flight or three required only to add miscellaneous equipment and open the thing up for service. NASA's history is littered with missed opportunities -- why obsess on Saturn V when there are so many others to choose from? Posted by: T.L. James at September 12, 2003 08:16 PM Well, maybe Barton is correct here. I don't see how the current ISS or the shuttles were further manned space exploration except perhaps to provide business for Russian companies. Why send good money after bad? Posted by: Karl Hallowell at September 14, 2003 06:39 PM Well, I wouldn't cry too much if ISS and Shuttle were packed away, and only really over the money spent on ISS modules never launched. IF -- if they were terminated in favor of a goal or solid R&D that actually *would* get humans into space on an open-ended basis. Posted by: T.L. James at September 14, 2003 07:32 PM |
